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75 mm 2S whoop: the garden quad that handles wind

A 65 mm 1S whoop is a living room toy. A 75 mm on 2S is a real aircraft: 47 g, 3.4 minutes, and enough thrust to fly a garden line in 12 km/h of wind without being pushed into the hedge.

Published 75 mm · 47 g · 3.4 min

Top-down wireframe of 75mm-whoop-2s with wheelbase and motor KV callouts
Specification — 75mm-whoop-2s
Wheelbase75 mm / 2S (75 mm)
Motors22000 KV
Props40 mm 3-blade
ESCBluejay · DShot300
VTX200 mW · 5.8 GHz
LinkExpressLRS 2.4 GHz · 150 Hz
AUW47 g
Flight3.4 min
Thrust to weight3.15 : 1
Rate limitActual 650 deg/s · expo 0.42
FiltersPT1 190 Hz / PT1 180 Hz
Dynamic notchOff
RPM filterOn (bidirectional DShot)
PID profile — P 72/76 · I 132/138 · D 32/34
time →setpoint 0%100%39A

Rates

  • Max rate — Actual 650 deg/s · expo 0.42
  • Expo — 0.42 · centre sensitivity 250
  • Throttle mid — 0.48 · expo 0.08
  • Filters — PT1 190 Hz / PT1 180 Hz / Off

Tuning pass

  1. Flash Bluejay at 48 kHz with DShot300 and confirm the AIO handles 2S without an external BEC.
  2. Enter roll P 72 / I 132 / D 32 and pitch P 76 / I 138 / D 34, then hover for 20 seconds.
  3. Leave the dynamic notch off and enable the RPM filter with the eRPM ratio set for 12N14P.
  4. Set 650 deg/s with 0.42 expo, a throttle mid of 0.48 and 0.08 throttle expo.
  5. Set failsafe to Stage 2 with a 0.2 second delay and a hard drop.
  6. Check the prop-to-duct clearance with a paper strip on all four corners.
  7. Fly three packs and time them; when the time drops below 2.7 minutes, replace the battery pigtail.

Assembly order

  1. Fit the carbon brace across the frame before mounting the AIO board.
  2. Check the prop-to-duct gap and adjust the ducts until the paper strip passes on all four corners.
  3. Solder an XT30 pigtail with 18 AWG wire; a thin pigtail will cost you 0.2 V under load.
  4. Mount the AIO with grommets and confirm no solder joint touches the frame.
  5. Bind the receiver, set the failsafe and confirm the model matches the transmitter before props go on.
  6. Set the battery profile to 2S 450 mAh and the voltage warning to 3.4 V per cell.
  7. Hover for 30 seconds and land to feel the motors; a warm 0802 means a prop strike or a bad bearing.

What 2S buys you over 1S

Going from 1S to 2S at the same 0802 22000 KV roughly doubles the available thrust and takes the aircraft from 29 g to 47 g, but the current also goes from 4.1 A to 9.6 A. The practical result is 3.4 minutes instead of 2.6 and the ability to recover from a fast descent in about half the distance.

Prop diameter and the duct gap

75 mm frames run 40 mm props with a 1.0 mm hub, which leaves about 1.5 mm of clearance to the duct. That gap is the single most important dimension on the aircraft: at 0.5 mm the props touch the duct in a hard turn and the quad yaws unpredictably, and at 3 mm the ducts stop doing useful work. If you replace a frame, check the gap with a strip of paper before flying.

Tuning a 2S whoop

Roll P 72 and pitch P 76 with D at 32 and 34 is a mid-range starting point; the ducts damp the frame, so raising D produces a shimmer instead of removing one. I at 132 and 138 is what holds the aircraft steady when you cross your own wake in a tight garden turn. Leave the dynamic notch off: the RPM filter handles the motor noise and the notch only adds latency at these RPMs.

Rates and the wind problem

650 deg/s with 0.42 expo and a throttle mid of 0.48. The throttle curve matters more than the rates in wind: at 0.48 mid, half stick is roughly the hover point, so a gust can be corrected with a small stick movement rather than a large one. In 12 km/h of wind this build drifts about 1.2 m over a 4 second hover.

Battery and connector discipline

A 2S 450 mAh pack with an XT30 adds 32 g and gives 3.4 minutes. The connector is not optional: a PH2.0 connector at 9.6 A drops about 0.25 V and its contacts wear out after roughly 60 mating cycles, which shows up as a sudden 20 percent loss of flight time. Replace the pigtail when the flight time drops.

Build parts

  • Frame - 75 mm whoop frame with a 1.5 mm carbon brace
  • Motors - 4 x 0802 22000 KV
  • ESC - all-in-one 12 A board, 2S capable
  • Flight controller - 2S AIO with an on-board receiver option
  • Props - 40 mm 3-blade, 1.0 mm hub
  • VTX - 5.8 GHz 200 mW, raceband
  • Receiver - ExpressLRS 2.4 GHz, 150 Hz
  • Battery - 2S 450 mAh 75C LiPo with an XT30
  • Camera - integrated 1/3 in analogue, 2.1 mm lens

Common mistakes

  • Running a PH2.0 connector at 9.6 A and losing 0.25 V plus flight time.
  • Replacing a duct without checking the prop clearance, which turns a stable quad into one that yaws randomly.
  • Copying a 1S tune onto a 2S build; the I term will be about 20 percent too low.

What matters

  • 2S at 0802 22000 KV roughly doubles thrust over 1S and gives 3.4 minutes at 47 g.
  • Keep 1.5 mm of prop-to-duct clearance; 0.5 mm makes the aircraft yaw unpredictably.
  • Leave the dynamic notch off and let the RPM filter handle motor noise.
  • Use an XT30 at 9.6 A; a PH2.0 costs 0.25 V and wears out in about 60 cycles.
Wheelbase 75 mm All-up weight 47 g Flight time 3.4 min Motors 22000 KV ESC Bluejay · DShot300